Homebrew Website Club

Ben Werdmuller:

I think it's time to change my site - I have werd.io on known, but I have benwerd.com that I can do static

Johannes Ernst:

UBOS is my linux distribution - now you can set up known as a TOR hidden service

I found that this means you can access it from behind your home firewall wihtout fiddling

also, if you put a tor service it on raspberry pi, the address mapping works wherever you plug it in

rabble:

is this like sandstorm.io?

Johannes Ernst:

it's more like a shared hosting environment than a container model like sandstorm

but yu can run it in containers as well as on raspberry pis and servers

I ended u using both Sphinx and Jekyll as one is good for docs and one for blogs

Ben Werdmuller:

I'm goign to give the Known demo as I haven't done it in 18 months

this is my website werd.io - you can see it is grabbing my instagram pics via ownyourgram.com

I can post to my site and syndicate out to all these social networks

here's @aaronpk in portland having a craft cocktail and reply with my bookmarklet

and it will show up on my site and also on his site

I want a personal homepage that is not just a stream of content

so I'm thinking about static homepages as well as conversational ui

Matt Holland:

why do you want something other than your feed?

Ben Werdmuller:

for people who don'tk now me so I can have an introduction and more context

you don't just want to replicate twitter - you want to have a bit more than that

Kevin Marks:

I have kevinmarks.com which is static, and known.kevinmarks.com for the dynamic updates

I liked @aaronpk's pinned post per tag as a way of providing context

Ben Werdmuller:

we had this idea that we wanted everyone to own their own content, but they don't always want this

EJ Harkness:

I celebrated when my parents joined facebook because it would keep me out of trouble

I have accounts on every platform everyone uses in SF, but I don't use them

everything now posts to twitter anyway, and that is the global connection

Ben Werdmuller:

I defeinitley have very different conversations on facebook and twitter as they are different networks

even if I post things on known and they go to twitter and facebook I get different conversations in response

EJ Harkness:

I've been thinking about identity from the other direction - what's the point of owning your own data?

I've been thinking about attribution and identity and tracking consistency across platforms

the post that is made up by someone on reddit that refers to the fake news on breitbart and it is accurate-ish

Johannes Ernst:

if you track where these things come from do they all come from the same places?

Ben Werdmuller:

fake news comes from the indieweb - everyone making fake news starts on their own website

Johannes Ernst:

the indieweb, unlike other places for sharing have a bit more trackability

Kevin Marks:

places like 4chan and other meme factories have full anonymity and focus on the meme itself, not credit for it

there are a lot of open collaboration projects where people are trying to do for fake news what they do for spam

Stacey DePolo 🌻:

Could we have a cross-silo way of expressing what is fake so we can track it between sites

Ben Werdmuller:

this year someone will make unified content subscription work

Stacey DePolo 🌻:

are people looking for things they agree with?

EJ Harkness:

yes - all my friends are looking for media they agree with

we need close reading to tell real news from fake news from satire

Erin Jo Richey:

@benwerd most of the fake news I read comes from you

Johannes Ernst:

one of the most fascinating things was the Mitrokhin archive where someone wrote the KGB archive down every day

it is a history of soviet intelligence operations from WW II to the 1980s

as a kid in Germany, I can remember things that mapped exactly to these KGB operations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitrokhin_Archive

Erin Jo Richey:

one of the studies I read recently was getting High School students to decide if sources were credible

they could no longer distinguish legitimate from illegitimate sources - the theory was they had grown up with the net

Ben Werdmuller:

someone I dined with last night said that American Schools don't teach source evaluation

EJ Harkness:

we never had a class on how to evaluate a source, but it was part of my high school and college curriculum

the amazing thing about the internet is that it is everything - no-one cares whether it is MIT or oxford or my brain

if we have some stable means of establishing identity we can compare your history of what you say

Johannes Ernst:

evaluating the background of the source is no longer reliable - I compare it with other things

Ben Werdmuller:

If anyone knows any startups that are trying to solve fake news and authority, send them my way

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