Homebrew Website Club

Tantek Çelik:

Welcome to homebrew website club: what have you got working on your own site recently?

I hit a bandwidth limit on my webhost and they turned my site off; I deliberately din't upigrade and reduced bandwidth

if you're maintaining a website on shared hosting you're responsible for throttling bad robots. I now put 1 item in my feed

I was also thinking about only putting 24 hours in the atom feed, so it would often be blank.

my homepage has the h-feed, the legacy atom feed is only there for existing subscriber so I'll just put that in there

andi galpern:

is your feed always chronological, or do they show the most popular?

Ben Werdmüller:

having just a single item is very annoying when you first subcribe

Tantek Çelik:

I'm trying to come up with techniques of how to publish your website to be the least work

Kevin Marks:

another possibility is to make the atom feed static so that the server handles caching for you

Ben Werdmüller:

I have a live dashboard on withknown.com and about 3/4 of it is bots -we're swimming in bots

Tantek Çelik:

these aren't good robots, a lot of them are bad robots

andi galpern:

who sould study this kind of traffic? a sysadmin?

Tantek Çelik:

after all the blocking and changes my bandwidth went from 2G a day to .5G a day

I also blocked any bot that starts with Java

imagine if 3/4 of all the phonecalls you get were from robots? all: they are t: I don't have a phone any more

Ben Werdmüller:

I just broke ground on the AMP template for withknown.com - it's like instant articles but more open

AMP is a slightly nasty subset of HTML that is meant for mobile apps and is cached by google, twitter

as @benward said, AMP is like a publisher-supplied quick read version of the site.

I'm also going to add twitter cards to the next version of withknown.com

we now see that people are using open graph etc in the browser too, so we will embed it in all

Kevin Marks:

AMP, Facebook Instant Articles and Apple News are like 3 new browsers that only support a subset of the web

andi galpern:

there is a big thing about user-centred design - we need to start viewing users as people

designers need to make it easier for people to control what they publish

my next event I'm interviewing @evacide - about how to do this

Tantek Çelik:

we are doing a one day hack day for indiewebcamp.com in SF on December 3rd

Ari Bader-Natal:

websites that I've been doing for myself where I pull in things I published elsewhere @t: we call that PESOS

I built a way to pull in all the feeds from places I have published elsewhere;

now I'm making a distinction between things I have posted and those that I have starred elsewhere

I'm pulling the starred items in from pocket, github and twitter

it's a pinterest style view of the various things I starred elsewhere

the other site is a blog-like view of all the things that I have posted on other sites, youtube, tweets etc

I need to work out how these collection sites fit into to my main personal site - working on connecting pieces

the sites that I have been doing with students at Minerva Schools at KGI where they can all have websites, but few take advantage

there is a group of 25 students who are posting together - I was collating feeds, but now it is a group site

once they have written on the closed site they can choose to share it out on their own sites

Bradley Allen:

I love the indiewebify.me implementation walking me through the different stages

now I have a github pages site and am working through the process